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Archive Reference / Library Class No.D258/9/12
TitleNote by Lieut. Col. Thomas Gell of women protesting the exise in Derby, and a soldier / exciseman being punised by being chained to the bullring
Date[1644-1646]
Extent1 items
LevelFile
RepositoryDerbyshire Record Office
Archive CreatorGell family of Hopton Hall, Wirksworth
FormatDocument
TermEnglish Civil Wars (1642-1651)
Excise duties
Civil disobedience
Women
Transcript or IndexMr James: for excise a subcom[m]issioner
he and Mr Flacket in May last desired of Sr
Jo Gel:, his assistance for the excise accordinge to
Mr Spenloves letter
to witch he answered that he could not pro-
[veil?] himself:
11 of May next he and his fellow directed [n...s?]
to the Cunsaller of Derbie to sum[m]on in the inha-
bitants of that townn, divers appeared and yield-
ed obedience to the ordinance: until 23 of the
same mounth when too or three woemen beate
up the drums, about 7 a clock in the morning
and continued until after noone with people fol-
loeing them about 60 of all sorts mennie of
them beinge women and children.
the women made proclamation, he heard that
the words were that all that would pay nou
excise [within?] to them and they would beath [beat] the
Commissioner out of town: the same woemen
the same day said ill language whilst the com-
misioner weare at dinnar and beat the drums
at the house where they dined.
the inhabitants taking notice these woemen were
not punished those that befoare did complie
afterward resisted to come in, and others grew
moare obstinate: but he cannot nou name them
but it will appeare by the books beloe
by reason of this they forboare untill about the
latter end of June, and then we did prevaile
with one Barron a soldier to assist one office
of theirs, by these officers they took severall

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distresses that made other[s?] to set to the ordinance
untill about the 4 of July on which time this
Barron was tyed to the Bulringe, as it was said
by his captain: the captaines brother told
this deponent it was not for that ounly that he
assisted them.
the same day ^upon beating the drums ^ the within [sent?] to Sr J G: and desired
him to punish those woemen, whielist they were
speakinge one of the woemen came by, and then
desired Sr Jo: Gel: to sucure those persons untill
the pleasure of the parliament was knowen
he answered that the not to meddle with
woemen, or words to that effect as he wralieth
he said that he used not to meddle with woe-
men unlesse the weare hansome.
he concieves the execution of the ordinance was
hindered by these tumults
after the first beatinge of the drums then was a
cessation for 6 weeks.
when folloed the second beatinge the drums, it was
the 4 of July then Flacket went to London to
complaine, a lieutenant Collenell then there
servinge thus persuaded them to leave the
townn for they weare in great danger: but he
saith he did not leave the townn but did act
as he was able accordinge to the ordinance but
he saith no [ric...?] was offered him
he saith that the first time they did not acqueint
Sr Jo: G: in particular
on the first day Mr Flacket and he went to the
meior and from there to the Recorder whithal
the meior and he came and Sr Jo: G: came
into the roomes they came to the recorder to
have the woemen punished

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the same day he saw them beatinge their
drums, this was before the complaint
made to the meier and the recorder they
made a tumult all the while he was in the
chaines that morninge.
after that the meier [pressed?] us to goe home and
then we came to him and the meior went
out and the meior went out and promised
that they would intreet the commissioner ^not?^
to forbeare and soe the tumult ceased: Mr meior
and Mr Thos Gel said they weare unwillinge
to punish the woemen in regard one of them
was a soldiers wife.
after the last beating of the drums, before he ca[me?]
to London they did proceede too officers were
beaten, but the excise was setled.
whielst mr Flacket was at London these
went to Sr Jo: G: to complain that one
Mr Brownn that had donne them good service
was beaten by an officer of Lieutenant Colle
Drinkwaters: upon complaint Sr Jo: G: he
said he would not punish a man an officer
untill the fact was proved, he he said the wit-
nes was [readie?] Sir Jo: Gel then said he was
goinge to dinnar:
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Edward Barron:
Upon the 2. Day of July Sr G: Gresly called him
when in the market place and asked him
wheather he was an excise man I replied that
I did nouthinge but by his captin was bound
he told me? Sr Jo: G: would speak with
him, I told him I would waite? on him,
when I came to his house Sr John was
not within but some of his servants abused
him calling him roaginge? excise, and
charged the sentries to keepe him untill
Sr Jo: G: came in this Mr [Ward?] tellinge
him his master would take an order
with him, when Sr Jo: came in he said Mr
Barron are you turned excise and sou dismissed
him for that time:
Upon the 3 of July Drinkwaters companie
called for me havinge the watch and
levinge to mount the gard ^the^ said severellie
upon he said that where is the excise
he shall be beated tomorow, Sr Jo: was
then present as he was told, when he came
to the gard too houris after about 8 ^a clocke^ at
night one Steven [Rainols?] a soldier
in that companie and said excisar we will
beate you tomorrow, about eleven a clock
the same night lieutenant Drinkwater
charged the corperell to birche him on the gard.

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On the gard, the corporall was [Epliadus?]
Fordam: about 4 a clock next morninge
Capt Drinkwater with for men bought
a long chaine and 2 Horse lockes and
called me from the gard, disarmed me
and had him to the bullringe and locked
both the locks on his leggs, and
chained him to the bullringe, whielst I
stood thus chained drums weare beaten
upon the crosse neare that place about
11 a clock the same day a woeman with
a drum, said come beate this exciser out
of the townn: and some of the people
threw stoanes at him, untill he desired
serjant Alexander to set a gard on him,
then he stoode untill about 3 a clock
witch was about 4 houres: Drinkwater
often passed too and frou: one meire [Mary?] Adams
came to him that had formerly be one
of the drummers and she said the[y] wern’t to
harm him: whielst he stood thus chained
and she desired him on her knees to unlock
him but Drinkwater replied that he
could not untill he had spoken to the
Governer and after he had sou continued he
was expelled by a sarjant one Mr [Wem?]

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Sr Johns companie, and would not suffer
him to speak to his wife: when did come in
[…?] he thinks Capt: Drinkwater did come and
it as he hath heard ^for sou the serjan toll him ^ he saith he hath bin lame
ever since: he saies the pretence was
for neclect of his dutie Drinkwater tolled
him the punishment was for giving to
Leicester witch he saies was about five
weeks, and he saies he was pardoned for that
by Drinkwater in the presence of Robert
Piggin, and others, and that he was imploied
by the excise men about foare dayes before
this punishment: to shew that his capt: par-
doned him he gave him a paire of shoes:
Upon Wedneday before he came to his
Captain lodging the Captain’s man
and his brother told him that it was
objected to the pleasure that he had given
me leave
Sir John was then in towne
the marshall told him that he would
bring his doggs and baite him, this Mr
Tho: Wright and said whilst he was chai-
ned to the bullringe and after he was thus
banished his wife and children weare ba-
nished and weare not suffered to make sale
off his goods.
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